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General DiscussionTransition into semicarry

Transition into semicarry in General Discussion
Jaxb

    Hey guys, i have a question for you. Recently I played support lina and we did great job early game (had 7-2-7 kda if I recall correctly), but i saw that our troll wasnt going really for objectives so I decided to get late midas and transition into semi carry.. (had arcanes, midas and bloodstone at 26 minutes)

    Heres the game https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3275339530

    Sadly we were winning fights but no push happened nor roshan, team always went farming after the fights. We even let them take roshan because none was willing to go there together..
    After some pick offs they got megas and I received several reports because i did not went full on support and that cost us the game.

    Were they right? Was the semicarry transition bad idea (keep in mind that troll was autistic)

    Autumnus

      No, why would you go FULL support when you have a LICH?, look at enchantress, earthspirit, kunkka, clock, slardar, wind, are THEY more effective when they ward all the time? you are playing position 4 which means YOU are not a full support.

      🍩🍪Cookie🍪🍩

        i very rarely see a support who transitions into a core anymore, it's a bad idea.

        Dire Wolf

          Troll farmed like garbage and blames you for taking his cs. I don't agree with midas pickup though, shadowblade is only 600 more, midas nerfed way too much.

          I don't like your item choices, linkens AND bloodstrone AND bkb? That's extremely defensive. You probably need a hurricane pike in there somewhere to do right click dmg and for mobility, then I'd do like daedulus or deso or bloodthorne over bloodstone or linkens. You didn't build any dmg really.

          evy

            What about pinging the towers instead of being a space sucker
            I have multiple games where these "s3m1 supp0rtz" just straight up buy random shit, drop the warding duty, and wonder why the hell the cores are so poor and everyone is camping inside the base

            evy

              If I go 4-1-3 on BH 10 mins in and my team doesn't take objectives doesn't mean I get a goddamn butterfly, alright

              meteor hammer

                kunkkas good at transitioning because armlets a good hybrid item that makes you unkillable and even with just drums or aether or whatever ur contribution to fights is huge

                A

                  Unkillable what. I prefer behind the shadow kunkka rather amlet kunkka

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                  TNL.Jolly_Hotdog

                    you should have gone rapier after midas. should have been an ez win if you did.

                    Emon

                      u gotta scream to your team to push after a won teamfight. (assert dominance lul)
                      having 4 cores is better than 3 tho, keeping your carries alive is also your priority so if you think the other support can provide forcestaff,cape and crest maybe you can be slightly greedier in your build but you should atleast see what you can do for the carry to unlock his full potential and fill in his weakness

                      muki

                        Your game is in VHS so I don't know what advice I could give that isn't dumpster tier?

                        That said, sounds like the issue might have been communication. Players farming after a successful team fight, I see it all the time in my games as well. You gotta focus them. I also tell my team to keep lanes pushed out somewhat so that when we do win a fight, waves are close enough to towers to knock them down. Just gotta be communicative.

                        Kotato

                          ^vhs is a dumpster tier, until 5k for sure