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General DiscussionWhich hero do you think will benefit the most from HotD buff and why?

Which hero do you think will benefit the most from HotD buff and why? in General Discussion
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    @Title. Reply ty.

    Totentanz to The King: M ...

      Any hero that buys it :thinking:

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        Which heros do you think its best to buy it then and why?

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          *Topic updated. I meant which hero will 'benefit the most' from HOTD..

          MagicHugs

            Maybe Zoidberg?

            quity

              it's still a niche item, the buff doesn't justify any clear pickups. If you want to control a creep for any reason, go for it.

              Stentorian

                awful item.

                if you want to farm faster, just get midas.

                if you're forced to jungle, just get a morbid mask.

                if you want to push and clear waves faster, just get mael or bfury.

                i can't think of one scenario where I say "oh yea HOTD is clearly better"

                no one bought it in TI. no one. highly doubtful a minor attack speed buff would change that.

                Totentanz to The King: M ...

                  Lil bought it a couple of times. It's only good if you can really make use of the creep for scouting, cutting creep waves etc

                  Stentorian

                    Saying HOTD is useful is like saying shitting standing up is a good idea when you have hemorrhoids.

                    jinzo

                      if it was a good buff luna would make a good use, maybe sven but i see mom better on sven

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                        Actually people dont use hotd that well even in pro games.
                        Did you see how lil used it as NS at TI.
                        He literally secrued them the game, thats how u use Hotd to the full effect. You use the active on the neutral creep like centaur for the full effect. The 450 ms on the dominated creeps is overpowered in the right hands and Lil showed that.

                        9'Mill

                          Still useless shit

                          kzom

                            its mom still good guys?

                            Autumnus

                              Hotd is good on luna, you can get a creep to stack for you or use the creep to disable an opponent.

                              Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                Hotd is good on <insert hero here>, you can get a creep to stack for you or use the creep to disable an opponent.
                                Thank you for explaning what the item does man!

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                                DC.MASON

                                  Hotd is good on <inster hero hero>, you can get a creep to stack for you or use the creep to disable an opponent.
                                  Thank you for explaning what the item does man!

                                  99% of normal skill advices

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                                    ^ Thats why looking for some very very high skill advice. Its even great on snowballing heros like bs pugna get a creep with a great passive like the tomato or the dmg aura wolfy and even secure HG pushes safely.
                                    It still needs to be used mre effectively even in pro games, maybe they get these ideas after reading my thread!

                                    Shou

                                      Pugna hotd sounds beyond atrocious
                                      There is nothing from that item that pugna wants
                                      No mana
                                      No cast range
                                      No armor
                                      No defensive tool
                                      Pugna has no problem pushing and he doesn't need an item to help him

                                      Cheap Laugh Guy

                                        Clinkz, eat the creep.

                                        evy

                                          wow 5 aura attack speed buff so gud

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                                            Imagine a support with offlaner/support with the hellbear smasher and Hotd while pushing.

                                            Now that is +15 AS from the Hotd and +15 from the hellbear. Now if someone else has a drums and activates it you get +25 AS.

                                            So thats (15+15+25) +55 AS for a carry liek jugg with whom the team can push pretty early with a healing ward. Now if this is used to secure a T2 And then a T3 rather early in the mid game , thats more than worth it.

                                            Compare this to a late game item like AC which gives just +25 AS aura and even if the carry has it he gets the same AS (55) as above but it has to farm a ton for it which is not likely to be bought early mid game as well.

                                            What I'm saying is very rarely do we see the actives and passives of the neutral being dominated used to the full effect in general gameplay including pro matches.

                                            PS - the dominated creep is far superior than a creep from Chen or Enchantress mainly because of the high movement speed while its dominated and increased hp of it as well.

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                                              @Into The WIndow : Clinkz eat the creep haan? Now there is one more use of HotD , buy it -> dominate creep -> Bait clinkz to eat it-> Dust him and kill him. Ty

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                                                Vhs fucks. reply ty.

                                                GRANT MACDONALD

                                                  INsanely useful in a push lineup scenario. The tomato bear and big satry are ridiculously useful in a summon heavy lineup

                                                  Dire Wolf

                                                    5 more attack speed doesn't change anything. Still not good.

                                                    Anomaluna

                                                      I imagine a support could buy it in a team with Tinker, but besides that, whatever the dominated creeps provided or the stats the item itself provides is not enough. Too expensive and nerfed.

                                                      dead

                                                        still dogshit

                                                        Soggy Bottom Boy

                                                          I could see it on a position 4 Slardar maybe? Get the centaur, run it with the huge move speed to stun setup for your own stun and have an early 16 health regen at lvl 10 with your talent. Maybe.

                                                          evy

                                                            The aura wasn't what held people from getting the item again lol

                                                            Potato Marshal

                                                              I bought it recently, but I'm terrible at micro so I just grabbed an enemy siege creep to help push. I feel like HotD is like drums right now, a cheap stat item that helps your team push a little better. It's not worth it for a core to waste a slot on, and a lot of the times it's better for supports to go for a more useful utility item like force or glimmer, but it can be alright if you're ahead and just want to push early. You really need to micro well though, otherwise you're better off getting Vlad's instead.

                                                              Dance of the NeoVim

                                                                A while back, before the stats nerf, I used to get HotD on jug and get the big Satyr with the regen aura and just push 24/7 with the team. Ez 25 min wins.

                                                                Kotato

                                                                  did anyone consider void btw?