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General DiscussionHOW TO COUNTER VISAGE

HOW TO COUNTER VISAGE in General Discussion
catboy scapies :3

    I learnt that riki a fakie visage the real scary boy how do I beat this hero so hard he regrets being born a dirty visage piicker

    ywn

      brood

      catboy scapies :3

        im not a cheese hero picker bro..

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        AnŦaiN

          Necro maybe ? Cuz in my last two games with necro there was enemy visage and hes too easy of a target .

          spilled

            slark really fucks him up
            phoenix is really good at burning all his stacks of cloak, so is anyone with dots
            he and his birds melt very fast once cloak is removed, with the lowest magic resistance in the game
            honorable mention to chen as visage has no depush

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            cartel

              i played visage a very long time ago... and afair i hated veno - necro - viper and other dot heroes
              iluusion heroes were also problematic but i could play around them
              i hated stuff that could jump me so slark and storm were a pain to deal with

              Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                Rape him in lane with lina, qop, ta

                ywn

                  well then you can lose to cheese heros like visage )

                  inx4c

                    in midlane ta is so good

                    ywn

                      yes but in late game and vs the early push strat u can do with visage TA isnt very good

                      inx4c

                        idk in my experience by the time visage gets 6 ta is like lvl 9 or 10 with stupid farm

                        ywn

                          well i'd say TA is usually gonna be like 2 levels ahead but visage can still manage to get dominator and just 5 man lanes and TA can't put enough split pressure to stall this, but brood can. also visage likes to get solar crest, ac and crimson which counters TA and u can get even get halbard if needed it doesnt really matter for a visage.

                          Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                            Wouldnt ta get like a 10 minute deso against visage considering how weak visage is at contesting cs

                            DC.MASON

                              from carries:
                              slark is difficult to play against
                              pl is almost impossible to play against

                              on lane:
                              ofc some shit like brood, other than that anything that can control the lane by denying every creep
                              sf is good, ta is super good but when visage starts doing his shit there's a limited amount of things you can do about that as stated above
                              probably loses to qop too but i played that like once

                              if you're both getting similar farm and levels, it's a win for visage

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                              spilled

                                qop is a little strange because the dot takes a long time, long enough that the cloak layers recover if it's maxed
                                even if it's not maxed, it still will always recover every other tick
                                you have to go in on him while the dot's on him, but that backswing under grave chill is atrocious, so you really have to time it in a narrow window

                                sniper is actually quite well posed to deal with him, given shrapnel and his very short attack animation
                                atk speed still slowed, but the animation being slowed is negligible
                                shrapnel at level 1/2/3 don't proc cloak, which can be beneficial because vis eats the full damage of it and it hurts hard
                                at level 4 shrapnel it will proc cloak, which can be beneficial because it melts layers fast

                                Feachairu

                                  y not just use pl mid

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                                    i feel like undy and gyro are worth a mention too

                                    cartel

                                      oh phoenix bristle and axe are also problematic

                                      spilled

                                        helpful tip:

                                        when taunted or stunned, visage birds cannot cast stone form
                                        however, visage can use the no-micro hotkey from his hero to stone form his birds regardless

                                        Jack__Attack

                                          Former visage spammer here Any melee hero can deal with visage mid. Axe, spectre, bloodseeker, bristleback, phantom assassin I found difficult to handle.

                                          spilled

                                            how do you call yourself a visage spammer with only 123 games of visage

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                                            apology accepted

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                                            Jack__Attack

                                              My apologies for not having over 10k games.

                                              DC.MASON

                                                let's take a moment and appreciate valve for not putting any indicator when birds are silenced

                                                Riguma Borusu

                                                  let's take a moment and appreciate valve for not putting any indicator when birds are silenced

                                                  I don't think visage birds have most indicators, the reason for this is that they weren't intended to show any indicators back when they were completely immune to magic and didn't act like ordinary units. Now that's changed, but they still don't show most (de)buffs.

                                                  Feachairu

                                                    i didnt even know birds can be silenced

                                                    afk offlane

                                                      Im rank 58 visage, dota is not 1v1 but heres my 2 cents:

                                                      -not doing much vs phantom lancer
                                                      -not doing much vs ck

                                                      -certain melee heros can win cs 1v1 mid so hard my lvl 6 is delayed (then again thats not end of game but can be pita)
                                                      -or rganed too especially wth drow aura

                                                      -dota is not 1vs1 tho and my most fucked up games have vbeen when their whole lineup makes it so that its hard to do anything, not just their mid hero (ww's ult cd feels fking short omg)

                                                      Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                                                        Visage loses mid lane to everyone, better go safe lane visage

                                                        OMICRON

                                                          meepo.

                                                          KUKULAMIN KA BUT THE K IS...

                                                            Tinker gon fucc any lane fite me

                                                            Ritsu x boni = 0 IQ

                                                              ^except brood

                                                              Feachairu

                                                                isnt invoker>tinker?

                                                                Jack__Attack

                                                                  Visage beats zeus mid.

                                                                  Inflation Agent

                                                                    Winter Wyvern

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