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General Discussionhigh mmr support player help needed

high mmr support player help needed in General Discussion
captain KEEL

    gamers please
    i once heard something about saving reliable gold for items and spending unreliable gold on wards and shit
    is this true?
    if so how do people check reliable and unreliable gold
    i'm asking because i usually have like entire map warded and sentried but i have tranquils and void stone at 25 mins on a hero like lion that i think should be getting much more farm
    also i get like 20 lh in 50 mins game so i must be doing something wrong
    is there like a good habit or rule of thumb to help me get more gold on support heroes...like when i should push waves and when i should be off the map and when taking camps
    ty for reading

    Kotato

      do you really need help with your >60% win rate or you trolling? Just asking

      captain KEEL

        winning is not an indicator...i win because i win my lane with a support then ward near t2 towers and we snowball like crazy every single time...my problem is when we are behind....i feel so useless....i have no idea what to do where to be how smoke correctly to make plays happen....literally clueless..just wandering around the map with no aim
        so i started with my most obvious problem which is being piss poor on the WINNING TEAM somehow....always around 5k networth...enemy support would have like 6k networth somehow
        my second obvious problem is shitty positioning in teamfights...but i will learn that after i am able to use my money correctly

        Kotato

          would you accept my suggestion of not buying that many sentries in games when enemy has no invisibility? That safes money
          https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/4251559890 enough to match networth of enemy support

          Tribo

            You buy wards when your team needs them. That's how you save up for items. If you're ahead/behind and team needs vision around decisive areas(jungle/towers/roshan) you buy wards. If not, you save up for your items.

            captain KEEL

              @kota is it wrong to get them just for dewards?
              @tribo ty...i was just focusing on not having many wards in stock.... maybe yeah i should ask my self why i'd buy it in the first place

              Tribo

                Also why do you play position 5? Just pick sky and win lul

                captain KEEL

                  idk i just won like 3 games and went on huge win streak....then i started losing yesterday and today so i thought i should try improve again before trying to climb
                  woah....tribo sky spammer pogchamp...i go watch tribo replays

                  crwdns1299:0crwdne1299:0
                  T'ekaaluk - Thank u, next

                    TRIBO TEACH ME YOUR SKY

                    T'ekaaluk - Thank u, next

                      i just break a 4x losing streak with drow pog

                      captain KEEL

                        just broke 4 lose streak with fucking oracle....twice in a row
                        fav hero
                        ban storm...ult carry
                        ez win

                        Tribo

                          Wym u have so many deaths

                          Nikki

                            Don't die lest you're doing it for greater good
                            Play around team or warded areas if you feel unsafe
                            Stack Jungle camps so your team could take it while you get the lane
                            Wards, carry at least 1 sentry and observer always
                            Leave at least 1 stack observer ward on shop (in case enemy dewards like me you wouldn't run out of wards)
                            Never hug wards while staying on 1 lane while your other lanes suffer from no wards

                            captain KEEL

                              low deaths for noobs
                              15 deaths masterrace

                              girl?

                                u r the big bad

                                captain KEEL

                                  i am
                                  the big dab
                                  xd

                                  captain KEEL

                                    @ neon being a king of the monkeys still didn't make you a good monkey king
                                    smh

                                    crwdns1299:0crwdne1299:0
                                    HanYolo

                                      buy less wards. fuck the team. who the hell said to always buy wards off cooldown? rubbish

                                      Kotato

                                        hanyolo spilled it all

                                        captain KEEL

                                          legend 4 dab ty for the tip tribo
                                          don't buy wards without knowing where you will place them in advance = rich gang