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General DiscussionBeen using dota plus on overwolf and noticed valve likes to put losin...

Been using dota plus on overwolf and noticed valve likes to put losing spree people together. in General Discussion
Where is my Hu Tao

    When you are having a bad week all ur teammates have like under 40% win rate in their last 20 games and the other team has 70%. Coincidence or gabe hacking

    '96 Neve Campbell

      Depends. If you have been placed in the shadow pool then that would explain your bad week and would also explain why the people around you also have low winrates

      kowareta

        ShAdOw PoOl

        I tOsSeD cOiN aNd I gOt 10 TaIlS, gOd CuRsEd Me.

        imagine sounding this retarded while u living in first class countries. literally lowest of the lows

        '96 Neve Campbell

          Yes

          Dunning-Kruger-Doto

            Well there are several factors, that can cause a lossstreak after a winstreak and vice versa.

            1.
            If you lose one game horribly, because someone acts like a complete moron, chances are high that you tilt.

            I recently lost 2 games in a row. First game because of 2 ppl not playing their role. 2. game mid gave fb and left. On other days, I would have pressed the green button once again. Chances were rly high, that I would have raged at my future teammates for the slightest mistakes. Reason:

            I was tilted.

            So I stopped playing, took a shower, ate something and played after this break. I won the next 4 games in a row.

            I had a huge lossstreak before that. Because I kept playing while tilted.

            2.
            Behav.score is a huge factor. The impact of behav.score changed dramatically compared to what it was 2 years ago. I came back after a long break and dropped from 4.5k MMR to 3k MMR. I could not figure out, why this game was throwing morons at me.

            a)
            bb)
            I was mechanically out of shape after a long break and did not get the meta. I told ppl what they were doing wrong. PPl reported me for that and the matchmaking gave me other toxic players as mates. So we downwardspiraled and tilted each other. Im pretty prone to tilt and I kept losing.

            aa)
            Losing games is also a pretty good statistical occurance for getting reported. Ppl rarley report their mates, when theywin a game. If you lose a game, chances are allready high, that some of your teammembers will report others. If you are the one, that kept yelling at them ingame, guess whos gonna get the report?

            b)
            aa)
            I figured out that its better to play with dorky guys that are nice than with mechanically blessed guys that are assholes. Beeing a nice and calm guy is a huge asset in dota. Dota is a teamgame. You win as a team you lose as a team. Changing this is pretty "easy" and a huge step to win more.

            bb)
            Critizing teammates has rarley a good outcome. Some dude just saying: "Wow you are right, im gonna stop making that mistake", is just not going to happen. Instead he will rage at you. So just accept that your teammates will make horrible mistakes. Fix your attitude towards that. You have to accept what u can't change. And you can't change how your teammates approach the game. You will most likley not see them again. So why even bother. Chatting with them also takes away your and their focus on the game: Your Chances to lose increase.

            3.
            If you keep losing enough, your mmr drops. Games are getting easier to win. You win, you are in a good mood. You win the next, your mood keeps getting better. Thats how winningstreaks happen.

            4.
            TLDR;

            You tilt, thats why you have losingstreaks. You drop hard, games get easy, you enjoy winning= Winningstreak.

            Its psychology, not gaben forcing you to 50%. My rule of thumb: I lose 2 games in a row, I stop playing for at least 1 hour.

            Where is my Hu Tao

              Kinda missing what i am talking about. If you use dota plus you see there are clearly games gabe wants you to win and games gabe dont want you to win. The game starts and like you see 4 people with like 30%win rate last 25 games and the other team has like 5 people with 60-70% win rate.

              Honestly i learn to give up on those games. Even if you try ur hardest ur not going to win might as well chill and not tire yourself out on those gabe losing games.

              The reverse is also funny if you see ur teammates are all 70% win rates u can literally pick anything mess around and feed and still win.

              Dunning-Kruger-Doto

                Maybe its because you got reported recently and game puts you with other toxic folks. You get matched with other tilted players, cause your behav-score is similar.

                Thats a pretty nice mechanic to drive toxic ppl out of the game. Im not missing the point, you just don't get it.

                Why would a gaming company put ppl on losing streaks without any reasoning?

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                Salty

                  Yeah dude, those are the most likely unwinnable games, as much as there are some that are most likely winnable. If you play 100 matches witout any impact you should have 50% wr. if you have some impact, you can start winning or losing more, thus making it so that the unwinnable matches before now become kinda winnable. It isn't a flaw in the system or something, it just how it works. If you're able to carry the ultra retards, you deserve to go up.

                  But if you're like almost everyone else, just content yourself with having something above 50% wr, and just don't care about this unwinnable games.

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                  Pernod Cola

                    I'm not sure about the losing spree thing but I have noticed that when a game goes shitty for my team it's usually my team with 20 games played and like 50% win rate vs like 60-70% win rate and 150-200 games played. Basically not so many games and a shitty win rate vs a lot of games and a good win rate overall.