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General Discussionis fkin 5k+ mmr not enough?

is fkin 5k+ mmr not enough? in General Discussion
beld

    http://dotabuff.com/matches/481259574
    http://dotabuff.com/matches/481066025
    i get these kind of games EVERYTIME if i dont go es and just stomp every shit game
    what the fuck is wrong? ive never had such retarded feeders in 4.4k, brown and orange go like this EVERY GAME since im in 5k..
    those are just 2 examples, you can basically check any game i dont have es
    and its not cos i suck without es, went 3 0 3 mid and clinkz got killed 5 times while i was even ganking his lane (even was brown, all soloq)
    so WHAT the fuck is wrong?

    MadBeast

      You have fake mmr due to playing es everytime, you can't impact the game enough with others heroes.

      Phenomenal

        A place, where you could hide from feeders does not exist. You get them in every mmr range obviously, some people's mmr is so overrated, that it hurts. I had bad luck (or bad karma) last few games and 2-3 feeders with 0-10 pretty much every game. I think it has to do something with Law of atraction and bad energy we give out when we're pissed of and thinking of bad players. If you continue playing like that, you'll get even more of them - rather take a break.

        Btw - i agree with Eazy, he's probably right.

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        MooMooLand

          lol at es abuser

          beld

            es is the only way to compensate duo queues that tend to feed hardcore (ld + lion were mates e.g.)
            and how should i impact as a storm mid when mirana + bounty gank me since lvl 1?
            spectre went midas ofc with a ld in jungle so he didnt do shit aswell

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            mwsqz

              u shoud just dodge when ur not p1 :)

              beld

                thats what i meant
                u can confirm that i didnt play bad i guess

                efix

                  it was first game on pg1 if I recall correctly, your clinkz went fully retarded and sk was pretty useless.

                  beld

                    had to mute him after 5 min since he blamed the whole team for roshing while he died solo top, u remember i guess ^^
                    and this kind of games is what i get everytime, if im mid or not doesnt even matter as u can see

                    Sōu ka

                      you are so fucking bad
                      ty for losing me my game

                      beld

                        no problem my friend

                        way2high

                          Well I love ES pickers... when they're on my team. When they're not, you guys should all die. That is all.

                          id8091828

                            yu have been in aa long ass losing streak lol holy fuck how much mmr have you lost?

                            Сука Spirit

                              King V nice dodge yesterday

                              Sieg

                                You play ES too much, your MMR is false because it doesn't reflect your skill with non-OP heroes.

                                Welcome to the real world.

                                Chicken Carry

                                  you are a bad player im sorry

                                  Kanye Best

                                    basically ap needs its own rating

                                    noob

                                      no wonder cuz brown/ orange is position have lowest mmr in team

                                      feeder

                                        leave if enemy team doesnt have an alch picker
                                        stay if your team has an es picker
                                        pretty decent rule of thumb

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                                        Hex: Face Camp

                                          "You have fake mmr due to playing es everytime, you can't impact the game enough with others heroes."

                                          This, don't play a broken hero and your mmr won't be inflated, your gona come down when hes nerfed so sucks to be you.

                                          Just checked your profile, you actually only win on es ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, what does that tell you about both es and your mmr?

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                                          Quick maffs

                                            Holy shit you guys have serious problem with hate, all this shit talking because the guy plays ES, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.

                                            The same shit happens with jerax, the guy is a really good player but gets hate just for playing a hero.

                                            Personally if a hero is broken i play him a LOT, blame icefrog not ME.

                                            But oh well who am i to make people understand how stupid and ignorant they are.

                                            BenaoLifedancer

                                              @beld

                                              this is the reason you suck:

                                              "es is the only way to compensate duo queues that tend to feed hardcore (ld + lion were mates e.g.)
                                              and how should i impact as a storm mid when mirana + bounty gank me since lvl 1?
                                              spectre went midas ofc with a ld in jungle so he didnt do shit aswel"

                                              since u play only es u dont know shit about the game and cant deal with these day by day situations

                                              Relentless

                                                Well played! You have mastered Earth Spirit so well that you reached 5k MMR... now, do you wish to continue to try to lift your Earth Spirit play to the 6k level? Or would you rather play other heroes. Caution! You are nowhere near as good at other heroes. Playing them will cause you to lose MMR until you reach your MMR level on that hero. After you have lost some amount of MMR you will reach the level where you can... perhaps win lots of games as Nature's Prophet? It's like dota 2 has become a whole new adventure now that you are trying to master a new hero. Can you get good enough at the new hero to hold 5k MMR and carry all the feeders? Only time will tell.

                                                Personally I like to keep MMR reasonably low so I can play a large variety of hero and still win sometimes. I like to random heroes. But that's not how you master a hero. That's not how you become excellent. Do to that you have to play the same hero over and over and over again. Do what you like.

                                                As for the original question of the thread... No of course 5k MMR is not enough to not get somebody failing miserably on your team. In fact that's the opposite direction to go if you want stronger allies and weaker enemies. If you want your team to better than the other team then you need to aim for low MMR... very low. At 1 MMR your team is certain to be better than the other team every single game.

                                                Super high MMR on the other hand means you have to carry the game even harder than before against excellent opponents with feeders for allies. That's what the higher levels of MMR get you. Enjoy your prize!

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                                                Aerium

                                                  double deso GG

                                                  Joller

                                                    you QQ cause you are scrubs who play for fun and not to win, he has edge over you with ES and now you QQ that you can't have fun

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                                                    imbaPower

                                                      Why do some guys even post hate comments? All i can see is jealousy cuz they can't reach 5k rate...

                                                      Juke Ellington

                                                        Earth Spirit. lol

                                                        vivivvivivi

                                                          "Personally I like to keep MMR reasonably low so I can play a large variety of hero and still win sometimes."

                                                          your mmr is low because you are shit and incapable of supporting your team to victory sherlock, how fucking dense can you really get?

                                                          beld

                                                            u guys didnt see fucking king v posting? i get these kind of feeders in the game
                                                            guess ur just jelly cos u cant carry with es :D

                                                            Hagakure

                                                              Yes beld we are all fucking peanut butter and jelly due your continuos failures by playing any other hero that isn't ES .. yes man i fact we should put down a list of people that are jealous of your miserable gameplay.. wait.. lemme recheck on that..

                                                              Lemme make another list.. your failure list

                                                              > alot of heroes that are easy to play - utter bottom of the barrel shit.

                                                              Congratz on your padded stats, enjoy your stay in Dota 2.

                                                              Quick maffs

                                                                Black you realize that beld is WAY, WAY better than you right ?

                                                                Really funny how 90 % of the ones atacking him for playing ES are really bad players.

                                                                beld

                                                                  ^
                                                                  with my 50% winrate i played against s4, akke etc
                                                                  in your kind of bracket i can stomp what u cant do anyway
                                                                  http://dotabuff.com/players/120156813

                                                                  Hagakure

                                                                    Dorkly.. you realize that i dont come here and open threads about how bad others are just because i lost a game right? Really funny how 90% of fucktards opening these threads use one failed game mechanic or another to inflate their stats and then come here riding a freaking pony of rightneousness as people cared...

                                                                    And even then i dont personally care if he uses ES or whatever hero, in fact i dont care if he's good or bad i just have a instantaneous dislike for asshats that blame others for their failures.

                                                                    Beld.. you can't stomp shit because you lack the brains for it, its as simple as that, the moment you blamed your team, started using "my little rank " and other obvious crap was the moment when everyone saw how sad you are... instead if you might have had written your post like.. fuck me i lost what went wrong here... then maybe but just maybe people could have given you more or less non trolling answers ( wich you aren't looking for since you are a jackass and then more ass then jack )

                                                                    Or you could be a smart guy and review your freaking games and just see what you could have done better genious.

                                                                    http://dotabuff.com/players/120156813 > yeh man if i gave half a fuck for you ganking noobs on low tier lvls i'd place the importance of that occurrence at the same lvl from obama when he got his nobel prize... spelling it out for you , a big round ZERO importance fact without any relevance whatsoever in the history of Dota .

                                                                    If the best you can do is to show that you gank noobs and play good at one hero while making yourself look like an arrogant idiot do mankind a favour by jumping from a cliff or something and remove yourself from our genetic pool.. future generations will certainly and unknowingly apreciate the kind gesture on your part.

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                                                                    beld

                                                                      lol, mad cus bad

                                                                      Sōu ka

                                                                        he went 0-3 by 5 min and cried that there were no obs when we had 1 support and the enemy team had a bounty
                                                                        if i play support i dont get courier+dust/sents and obs and i dont think anybody should do that shit anyway except maybe with chen/enchantress
                                                                        and you also started to cry all game when the game was still winnable as fuck and said shit like i dont care i dont even want them to win
                                                                        thats the fucking worst kind of retards
                                                                        i actually think that all of you were really shit to be honest but whatever shits still winnable

                                                                        beld

                                                                          well u had a 1v1 lane cos potm bh furion and qop were hugging me :D

                                                                          Hagakure

                                                                            No beld i'm not mad because you are sad, im actually simply seeing the core of your problem and you are not wich translates into the following, look at both your accs and look at how bad you are with Furion in one in comparison to the other... in other words you are irrelevant @5k MMR and its showing.

                                                                            beld

                                                                              lel
                                                                              i played like 150 furion games in my first 400 games and i never played dota 1 so the result is speaking for itself
                                                                              sorry that im not a 30 year old dota 1 veteran

                                                                              Sōu ka

                                                                                the potm was top for quite a while after she got 3 kills mid and then there was a prophet too
                                                                                was hardly a 1v1
                                                                                all you had to do was get lvl 6 and then tops a free kill every time you have mana
                                                                                but i guess typing and crying all game is better than that

                                                                                Vaikiss`742.

                                                                                  it doesnt matter how good u are u cant win game alone

                                                                                  if someone is feeding and has no clue what he is doing u will lose in 95% chance

                                                                                  Relentless

                                                                                    I disagree a bit with Vaikiss. I think a player as excellent as Vaikiss can carry one, probably two feeders. I think 3 feeders however is where it gets really hard to win. You can avoid having 3 feeders by queing with 3 people... but in solo que its not possible to avoid 3 feeder games.

                                                                                    If however you mean an intentional feeder, then yes the game is pretty much lost. I've seen very few games won 6 v 4.

                                                                                    beld

                                                                                      i just played with another faggot
                                                                                      he had es
                                                                                      33% winrate
                                                                                      wow

                                                                                      vapour trail

                                                                                        You got to 5k mmr in the first place by abusing ES, congrats. Your real skill level probably isn't even above 4.3k mmr at best rofl

                                                                                        Vaikiss`742.

                                                                                          i meant solo que games where u que in against stacks as solo with 4 solos in ur team and then ur mid and carry or offlaner feeds

                                                                                          those games are impossible to win most of my slark games with 30+ kills are lost due games like that

                                                                                          MooMooLand

                                                                                            Is vaikiss godly at dota?
                                                                                            Time to watch his replays and learn I guess.

                                                                                            vapour trail

                                                                                              Vaikiss is quite good, he solo queues most of his matches so his stats are legit compared to some of the people that 5 man stack to get the same stats as him