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Big Boost Big Boobs

    they come to your lane but they never zone out the offlaners, they never harass them, they never pull. so you play with half exp on solo vs solo. what am i supposed to do in those games. im trying not to lose my temper what else can i do?

    waku waku

      don't pick hardcarries unless you're picking last and your team still has no carry

      Yoshi

        There are things you can change, and then there are things you cant.
        Dota is composed of 10 players, 1 is you, the other 9 have their own brain.
        God knows what they are thinking.

        All I can tell you is try your best, some people are simply not made for cooperative games or cooperation in general.

        Low Expectations

          Well I looked ar ur last game and these support stats hurt my eyes. Nevertheless on topic of harassing when I play support vs offlaner like mirana I rarely even bother zoning them out as she doest scale well with farm and prefere forcus on pulling and ganilking other lanes.

          Big Boost Big Boobs

            guess i have to start laning as a solo

            Soultrap

              If you talk about this game:
              http://dotabuff.com/matches/650199723
              They are fake supports!
              Crystal Maiden's most played characters are Pudge, Nature's Prophet and Mirana.
              Rubicks most played characters are Queen of Pain, Invoker, Storm Spirit.

              I think most good dedicated support players are sitting at ~4k solo MMR. So if you want to play with good supports, you must drop your rating a bit. Irony... =)

              salt enjoyer

                I always prefer laning solo because you need to then trust only your judgement. When you have 1 or more in your lane, they are there and whether you like it or not you're mentally conscious they're there so you play differently as to when you're alone and you know no back up will come.

                Sadly a vast majority of players are carries and mids, even fewer are supports and even fewer than that are good supports so the chance of you having a semi decent support in your game is quite rare.

                game is bad

                  I play hard support and I'm above 5k+. Most of the time if I go leave the lane to go pull, the hard carry ends up dying to the offlane solo. I stick around to harass off the enemy so that the carry can farm comfortably.

                  Julien

                    Heh, this is funny. If you claim to know things supports should do so much better than the people you are matched with, then how about you support instead? Typical moron mentallity; complain about supports but won't support to save his life.

                    Big Boost Big Boobs

                      not only that game most of my games are like that.

                      Pure & Miracle + Zai

                        gelip burda bile aglıon :D

                        Soultrap

                          @team is fucking retarded
                          Your second most played (Sniper) is good support, right?

                          jo~

                            your such a moron go see his recent games please

                            ICE SKULL

                              just play cs go man u can ban faggots like that and they get put on overwatch bans and everything

                              its the fucking best game ever

                              ICE SKULL

                                if you get banned a cuople of times on overwatch, you eventually get a vac ban this is why i love cs go so much

                                fuck griefers and bad players

                                ICE SKULL

                                  "I think most good dedicated support players are sitting at ~4k solo MMR. So if you want to play with good supports, you must drop your rating a bit. Irony... =)"

                                  ahahahaha this is the dumbest shit ive read so far this month

                                  keep it up

                                  Vaikiss`742.

                                    i wouldnt even bother buying courier if i had fgt like u in my team

                                    sleave

                                      well in my bracket there are literally no supports. I can support pretty decently but it hurts me when i create space for ppl who dont know how to lh, they just auto attack and push tge shit out. Anyway for pubbers being a supp is at max buying courier and wards. They ward only the rune spot and they basically buy only 1 set of observers and gg. I enjoy playing supp but in my bracket its completely unviable

                                      Luterion

                                        maybe your support just worries about you being killed?
                                        most of times in my case...

                                        Taco

                                          Most of the time Supports players are Bad Carry Players who belive they gonna help.

                                          But they don't.

                                          nigga

                                            ^ wat

                                            Wink

                                              dont pick carries, just tell team to go push strat and cancer/deathball your way up the ladder

                                              Fakovnik

                                                random ppl are random,
                                                it's not like u are playing for money

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                                                ICE SKULL

                                                  szotyi3 whats ur mmr? asking because you met a puck who is TBD

                                                  Szotyi3

                                                    47

                                                    Kryptnyt

                                                      If you go offlane and never die no one can ever blame game on you, it's the best.

                                                      FlipFlop

                                                        ^+1.

                                                        dude

                                                          Miss 1 creep in lane and i won't bother upgrading the courier

                                                          Hassan

                                                            ^ Ooo that's harsh. Even the best carries miss last hits now and then (esp in pubs if they don't take it seriously)

                                                            dude

                                                              @Journey
                                                              I'm just messing around. It's not like supports don't make simple mistakes aswell :)

                                                              yiran

                                                                I'm sick of people complaining about bad support teammates. Go support yourself you egotistic carry picker.

                                                                Falco

                                                                  Literally just played with the best dazzle eu there

                                                                  drop your mmr to 75 and u get em :^)

                                                                  Yoichi Isagi | Blue Lock

                                                                    pick a support that can transition to carry like, Shadow shaman & warlock.

                                                                    I Am Back

                                                                      U supp, u pull, u die for them, saving them.. In the end they blame u for feeding

                                                                      I am usually a poor support, I meant gold wise, I pull creep for them and some times I won't even focus on farming the pull camp but I try to make sure the carry is safe... I usually had brown boots at 10mins + or so just to do warding, smoke ganks dust, and whatever

                                                                      At last I had enough of shit carry players...complaining and shit

                                                                      yiran

                                                                        it's may 2014 and people still blame their teammates

                                                                        Szotyi3

                                                                          Mr. 5267 MMR guy last picks a carry when we didnt have any support. Free farmed on easy lane, finished only his bkb in the 35 min game.
                                                                          So plz stop saying the supports suck on 5k. I play mostly supp or offlane and i can assure you that the carries and midders are far worse on this 5k trash level than the idiot supports.

                                                                          BaBon

                                                                            actually i've never had a problem with 5k+ supports, usually it's the sub 5k trash who sit behind me and deny creep for 15 min even when i ping the pull camp

                                                                            in fact i played with 5k+ friends recently and they helped me win the safelane every single time

                                                                            not to mention half the people who whine about lack of supports never play supports themselves, so i'm not really surprised here lol

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                                                                            yiran

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                                                                              allidoiswynn

                                                                                @Hokuto
                                                                                If you consider yourself a so much better support player you should consider supporting yourself.
                                                                                I have atleast 70+% winrate as support(Solo ranked). So you might achieve the same and stop whining about it.

                                                                                And to be honest the most 5k+ which choose to support are doing fairly well

                                                                                ICE SKULL

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                                                                                  allidoiswynn

                                                                                    @kami
                                                                                    Still getting carried abusing your way to 100%WR ?
                                                                                    Heard you bought a 6,2k account and then the calibrationmatch change came. :)

                                                                                    Still mad I deleted you as friend since you were flaming my very friends ?
                                                                                    I share no sympathy for you as player whether it be playwise or character :)
                                                                                    I said Solo ranking and i completly do not care about party rating. :)

                                                                                    Gustaphos

                                                                                      CS go is not the best game ever it has hackers aimbots like cs source did before quit promoting that pile of garbage on here you shit dick.

                                                                                      YoreyC

                                                                                        >usually it's the sub 5k trash who sit behind me and deny creep for 15 min

                                                                                        I thought I was the only person who did this

                                                                                        Less creeps for the enemy right

                                                                                        ICE SKULL

                                                                                          rofl

                                                                                          "Heard you bought a 6,2k account and then the calibrationmatch change came. :)"
                                                                                          are u mad i refused to sell the 6.2k acc to you? u dont have to lie

                                                                                          "Still mad I deleted you as friend since you were flaming my very friends ?"
                                                                                          i deleted u since this match http://dotabuff.com/matches/341470701

                                                                                          "I said Solo ranking and i completly do not care about party rating. :)"
                                                                                          nah ur fucking trash wheres ur 70% support kid?

                                                                                          stay and sit down mongoloid know your place

                                                                                          ICE SKULL

                                                                                            ":)"

                                                                                            allidoiswynn

                                                                                              got maaaaaaaaaad

                                                                                              Mortimer Smith

                                                                                                FUCK U DUDE

                                                                                                yiran

                                                                                                  aaaaaaaand we're back to a flame thread. great

                                                                                                  BOSS

                                                                                                    FUCK U DUDE