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    99.9% Forced, at least good made from Valve.

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    mwsqz

      impressive D: i wish i had ur life

      6_din_49

        Everyone has streaks!

        Wink

          ^because they are forced

          gopota

            But thats what this matchmaking is about, if u're good get ur forced losses, if bad - get forced wins.

            Everyone loves Chibi

              Agreed. If you're that much better, you'll win those really hard-to-win games too and gain probably even more mmr. But there is something with that forced 50% win, i actually agree it exists. After having a good win streak you usually get same long lose streak even if you play good. You have to play exceptional in those games to win.

              It's kind of lame, when you know from the start (either because of people hero picks or just intuition) that you're gonna lose and you pretty much cant do anything about it. But comebacks are even nicer in those game if they happen :)

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                28 lost 1 won 1 lost xD ... If i dont play hero that can mostly win 1v5, every game i play is lost on 3.5k+ bracket... So stupid rly.

                Elvz

                  For now I think I'm managing to dodge force 50% w/ abusing Visage & cancelling matchmaking queue in ranked if time > 2mins.

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                  ReGuardz

                    How cancelling matchmaking queue make impact on games? It might be handy.

                    Elvz

                      Shorter queue timed matches seems more balance than longer ones.

                      And it takes longer probably because the matchmaking system isn't able to find players of similar skill so it decides to just put someone lower or higher skilled so you could play. It results to stomps and I don't want that.

                      I still think it's a myth, but it seems to be working for me.

                      Totentanz to The King: M ...

                        ^That's actually true. That's true when someone doesn't accept as well. Since it puts you on "high" priority, it tries to find a match asap which ends up being totally imbalanced between teams.

                        BoJack

                          just leave before fb if:
                          -some1 is speaking spanish
                          -teammates are fighting over a lane
                          -u called a lane and some1 is contesting it
                          -right before ure getting fb'd (pause and leave)
                          -if you feel ur teammates are bad (leave if some1 says 'we need tank', for example)
                          -if opponents counterpick u
                          -if opponents pick imba hero

                          guaranteed much higher win % and no lpq (idk why but u dont get lpq anymore if u leave before fb (; )

                          Sup m8

                            ^in other words... Leave every game I play

                            [Lk].Zano

                              Which means, if you find atum, disconnect inmediately because of his recent Rigged Spirit mood.

                              Guts

                                You people have no life, cancelling matches just to win lol. It's like a job, doesn't seem too fuun..

                                Elvz

                                  ^Some people want quality matches w/ their free time.

                                  I cancel matchmaking queue (different from cancelling/leaving a already set match) if finding match takes more than 2 minutes because I want a game where both teams have 50% chance of winning. For me, it's more fun that way than having a 70/30 stomp games.

                                  I've been looking at the stats of my recent matches where I did cancel queue and I think the games did have better quality over the ones I didn't. Dotabuff stats of those people I've played w/ under cancelling queue usually have 52%+ winrate or having 70-100 more wins over lose. Which is way better than playing w/ 50%>WR people from longer timed queues.

                                  You might think it's tedious to do (cancelling over and over again) but if you have a set rules, I don't think it is. If I find myself cancelling queues like 3 times, I take it as a sign that I shouldn't even be playing dota2 and just do something else.

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                                    @atum.
                                    http://dotabuff.com/matches/484529316
                                    I went into this match literally thinking I should just quit. I had an instapick Drow on my team go with Luna into offlane (Luna was talking as if he was new to DotA and was comparing heroes to champions from LoL), enemy team picked ES AND BB, and we only had 1 support.

                                    At 39 mins, ES says "GG QOP and Lifestealer"

                                    Don't underestimate retards. Only leave if your teammates speak anything not English.

                                    Ples Mercy

                                      The only shit volvo forces is that my mmr shall stay @ 4,5-4,8k. When im close to 4,8 i get per win like 8 fucking points and lose like 28. When i go down to 4,5 suddenly iits like 25-25. Its weird as fuck.

                                      gopota

                                        Solanian, thats what I said about. If not only abusing your best hero you cant win shit here.

                                        Elvz

                                          ^yeah. that and maybe because players in my tier/region aren't really used to going up against Visage.

                                          3rd least picked hero. Like most players in AP mode, I usually wait for atleast 2-3 people to pick and I hardly go up against players using Visage. And when I do, it's almost always because someone got it on random.

                                          gopota

                                            I could also play all the games as ns mid, but I actually get bored too fast.

                                            Good mm is when you can play any hero you have some skill with and get fun. Not possible here.

                                            6_din_49

                                              @Solanin
                                              Winning with visage will increase your MMR until you'll win only 50% of your games with him. Then, if you decide to play another hero, you'll get a losing streak.

                                              Dark Squall

                                                I'm at 40% win rate no one forcing anything this is BS and now l2p

                                                BadKernel

                                                  like flipping a coin (?)
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                                                    This is bullshit :D? http://dotabuff.com/matches/485930049 Doubled GOLD,EXP, TOTAL STOMP... Lich feeding like bad chasing heros till T1 with ulti dyin, top lane lifestealer+lich feeding EVEN more alchemist. Not talking about 2 people making MEKKA...
                                                    Come on im demanding something more from ranked cm mode. If thats everything volvo can provide, I AM NOT IMPRESSED.

                                                    I would understand if it was normal game on some 1k bracket, but just jizz... ?

                                                    feeder

                                                      ^u sound br
                                                      ur making double meks
                                                      ur getting ur mek after a blink...?
                                                      same amt of deaths as them

                                                      should blame your teams shiity wombo combo teamfight draft where each hero is basically countered by another.

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                                                        not UR - you are * and no i was playin timbersaw that only in team did not have shit stats and did not feed on OFFLINE when even ganged 3-4vs 1...

                                                        King of Low Prio

                                                          must be hard not dying playing timbersaw........

                                                          leilani

                                                            Do you accept that a fair game is one in which both Radiant and Dire have a 50% chance to win?

                                                            If yes, then the Law of Large Numbers (in the field of probability) dictate that as you play more and more your win-rate converges to 50%.
                                                            If not, what do you think a fair game is?

                                                            There are many problems with Valve's matchmaking; this is not one of them.

                                                            Anthem Blue Cross

                                                              check my streak, it's either you sacrifice as a support or be a hitter when needed. 50% chance? OBLITERATED!!