The Problem with Russians is not the epic fail. I played just a game with an Omniknight from Germany, that failed big time. But at least he tried to play, like he was supposed to. His itembuilt was not the best (no meka, but aga). I told him and he apologized. He always got hooked, so no spells in teamfight. He repeled enemies. He was just a low player. But at least he tried.
On the other hand, you get a russian that picks Lich, goes on safelane and contests farm. He had seen a dondistream, where dondo got Mask of madness, orchid and crit. Maybe dendi can pull this off, the russian trashcan just ruins the game. Because most europeans take the game "seriously". So they will go for a carry on the easy lane, just to face that shithead lich contesting their farm. There will be a supportlack in the game, cause the lich will simply refuse all game long. So the team was built arround the picks. You will have a midlaner ,offlaner, safelanecarry, maybe a jungle if you are lucky a 2. support. Someone will have to fullfill the lichs role AND his own. So you usually have an offlaner or midlaner (since they have the gold, cause the carry cant farm proper thx to russiandude), who also have to spent money on wards/chick/dust/sentries. For the midlaner the game becomes incredibly annoying, cause he has no runecontrol and no vision of the gankroutes. And that is something, that you rarley see on non cis players.
They will only judge a playerskill by kills. If the enemy midlaner gets ganked 3 times early by enemy supports, the russian trashcan will flame the midlaner. But he had no vision, he had no tp reaction for counterganks, and the russiantrashcan had not moved once his ass of the lane, to gank himself. He was busy farming.
They mostley care for their own kda, and shit on "winning". They play to kill. So you often see a cis "support" (he does not support), that just steals kills from a carry. Later on he will flame the carry, cauise the carry is underfarmed and has negative kda. Thats just what makes russians annoying to play with. And yeah by russians i mean belarus/ukr/bulgaria.
Also picking a hardcarry after the team allready got a hardcarry, or going invoker mid, while the whole team allready lacks gankpotential. Thats russian doto.
1. Pickingmistakes
2. Laningmistakes
3. Playing your hero not the way he is supposed to
4. Going full rambo
Thats another class of mistakes than simply missclicking.
The same problems occur with turks, greeks and arabs. I haven't seen one decent turkis dotaplayer. And my parents are from turkey, so thats not simply racism. But turks dont play dota 2, they play lol. So no problem with them, cause you rarley meet one. Someone allready mentioned it:
1. Most guides are written in english, and rus/turk/cis lack englishskills often.
2. The mentality is completly different.
3. Russians tend to love dondi and his funbuilds and want to be as cool as him.
@Sampson
You are the pride of your country, right? Spamming shit here in russian.
Yeh but something both circles share in common, KDA is more important then winning the game.. its just fucking anoying when you see a guy chasing the other all the way accross the map and you just know that , that idiot is heading straight to a gank...
Or guys like yesterday CK no armlet no heart , just boots and 1 manta and our AM the eternal jungle farmer , one saying he was the tank and could hold 5 people off at the same time.. while the other just farmed... or the Bane guy that kept putting us to sleep when we were ganking someone .. for the first time i had really the necessity to choke someones life away with my bare hands :)
Anyways on topic, not all germans are like you describe a_moron, i now some people that range from new, in the sense that they are really wet behind the ears but are also learning the game to the actuall pros that really kick ass.. in between you get idiots ofc, but not all are like that Omniknight...
As an example, a spanish stack, 3 players, we needed a hardy carry, what does the fucking cunt pick? the omni and says.. me mid and me special hard carry omni... ( wich kept dying and wondering why couldn't he kill anything alone ).. .now go figure you get a clinkz , omni and jungling nigma... all from the same species and all 3 idiots go hard carry mode and complain the whole game... at least you had a guy that was trying actually and i bet that with a few tips and a push in the right direction could improve his gameplay.
Anyways rejoice.. the age of terrorblade has started... :/ fuck me all i see is tb and icarus.. bring pudge back pls.
There are ofc terrible players from other countries and really nice and well behaved good playing russians. But the amount of trashcans in absolute numbers is higher for russians. Also the percentile is higher.
And the most annoying thing:
Spamming the chat with a language only you speak... Thats just so russian. Never seen a guy from denmark spamming chat in danish, or a french guy spamming french.
4 Russians, only speaking russian. Trashrubick and Trashinvoker feed mirana hard. Ofc he picks invoker after we allready hat a tinker (the invoker fetish once again). losing to a void/tb safelanecombo. Thats only possible with russians on team. My items? Destroeyded them after losing the first lane. No need to prolong this bullshit. Better off buying 6 chicks and feed them to the enemy. So I can be as usefull as trashrubick and trashinvoker.
The Problem with Russians is not the epic fail. I played just a game with an Omniknight from Germany, that failed big time. But at least he tried to play, like he was supposed to. His itembuilt was not the best (no meka, but aga). I told him and he apologized. He always got hooked, so no spells in teamfight. He repeled enemies. He was just a low player. But at least he tried.
On the other hand, you get a russian that picks Lich, goes on safelane and contests farm. He had seen a dondistream, where dondo got Mask of madness, orchid and crit. Maybe dendi can pull this off, the russian trashcan just ruins the game. Because most europeans take the game "seriously". So they will go for a carry on the easy lane, just to face that shithead lich contesting their farm. There will be a supportlack in the game, cause the lich will simply refuse all game long. So the team was built arround the picks. You will have a midlaner ,offlaner, safelanecarry, maybe a jungle if you are lucky a 2. support. Someone will have to fullfill the lichs role AND his own. So you usually have an offlaner or midlaner (since they have the gold, cause the carry cant farm proper thx to russiandude), who also have to spent money on wards/chick/dust/sentries. For the midlaner the game becomes incredibly annoying, cause he has no runecontrol and no vision of the gankroutes. And that is something, that you rarley see on non cis players.
They will only judge a playerskill by kills. If the enemy midlaner gets ganked 3 times early by enemy supports, the russian trashcan will flame the midlaner. But he had no vision, he had no tp reaction for counterganks, and the russiantrashcan had not moved once his ass of the lane, to gank himself. He was busy farming.
They mostley care for their own kda, and shit on "winning". They play to kill. So you often see a cis "support" (he does not support), that just steals kills from a carry. Later on he will flame the carry, cauise the carry is underfarmed and has negative kda. Thats just what makes russians annoying to play with. And yeah by russians i mean belarus/ukr/bulgaria.
Also picking a hardcarry after the team allready got a hardcarry, or going invoker mid, while the whole team allready lacks gankpotential. Thats russian doto.
1. Pickingmistakes
2. Laningmistakes
3. Playing your hero not the way he is supposed to
4. Going full rambo
Thats another class of mistakes than simply missclicking.
The same problems occur with turks, greeks and arabs. I haven't seen one decent turkis dotaplayer. And my parents are from turkey, so thats not simply racism. But turks dont play dota 2, they play lol. So no problem with them, cause you rarley meet one. Someone allready mentioned it:
1. Most guides are written in english, and rus/turk/cis lack englishskills often.
2. The mentality is completly different.
3. Russians tend to love dondi and his funbuilds and want to be as cool as him.
@Sampson
You are the pride of your country, right? Spamming shit here in russian.
^ Sampson's not russian, he's spaming shit in russian the way no russian would xD
every russian wants to be versuta i can confirm this 100%
He's not even russian >.>
BEEEEEEEECH POOOOOOCH
Yeh but something both circles share in common, KDA is more important then winning the game.. its just fucking anoying when you see a guy chasing the other all the way accross the map and you just know that , that idiot is heading straight to a gank...
Or guys like yesterday CK no armlet no heart , just boots and 1 manta and our AM the eternal jungle farmer , one saying he was the tank and could hold 5 people off at the same time.. while the other just farmed... or the Bane guy that kept putting us to sleep when we were ganking someone .. for the first time i had really the necessity to choke someones life away with my bare hands :)
Anyways on topic, not all germans are like you describe a_moron, i now some people that range from new, in the sense that they are really wet behind the ears but are also learning the game to the actuall pros that really kick ass.. in between you get idiots ofc, but not all are like that Omniknight...
As an example, a spanish stack, 3 players, we needed a hardy carry, what does the fucking cunt pick? the omni and says.. me mid and me special hard carry omni... ( wich kept dying and wondering why couldn't he kill anything alone ).. .now go figure you get a clinkz , omni and jungling nigma... all from the same species and all 3 idiots go hard carry mode and complain the whole game... at least you had a guy that was trying actually and i bet that with a few tips and a push in the right direction could improve his gameplay.
Anyways rejoice.. the age of terrorblade has started... :/ fuck me all i see is tb and icarus.. bring pudge back pls.
There are ofc terrible players from other countries and really nice and well behaved good playing russians. But the amount of trashcans in absolute numbers is higher for russians. Also the percentile is higher.
And the most annoying thing:
Spamming the chat with a language only you speak... Thats just so russian. Never seen a guy from denmark spamming chat in danish, or a french guy spamming french.
Versuta is so freaking bad. Played against him once in a pub, RRRRRRRRRREKT
everyone picks TB and icarus; feeds.
^ Well, that happens with every new hero except Abaddon only because it's a bit harder to hard feed with him.
Russiandotostronk, once again:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/491894010
4 Russians, only speaking russian. Trashrubick and Trashinvoker feed mirana hard. Ofc he picks invoker after we allready hat a tinker (the invoker fetish once again). losing to a void/tb safelanecombo. Thats only possible with russians on team. My items? Destroeyded them after losing the first lane. No need to prolong this bullshit. Better off buying 6 chicks and feed them to the enemy. So I can be as usefull as trashrubick and trashinvoker.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/491822397
Russian slark prefers farming jungle while enemy takes rosh and 3 towers. Thats stronk russian doto.