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General DiscussionAny tips how to play vs extremly push oriented lineups?

Any tips how to play vs extremly push oriented lineups? in General Discussion
Low Expectations

    ^ http://dotabuff.com/matches/660441713
    I dont really understand what more to do, we won early game (as to my knowledge is the best way to counter it). Mid viper got 2 solo kills on invoker, I rotated and we got a third kill. They tried to push top lane early I tpd and we killed NP and Lyctan. (We were leading in kill score). Nevertheless we could not combat the oncomming mass swarm of necros, wolves, spirits etc. How do you actually play vs this shit?

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    cefalea

      yeah, counterpush heroes, you know like kotl and shit.

      Low Expectations

        They all picked their heros at last 10-15 sek before the game started.

        Mia

          1. Pick carries
          2. Turtle at tier 3
          3. roll over them

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          Z__

            Earthshaker, Tinker, Sniper, Kotl, anyone who can def high ground. Don't engage on stupid fights (AKA defending an offlane t1 4v5, etc) and don't freak out when you see all your t2 down at 15 mins in.

            Low Expectations

              How do you turtle at tier 3, when there is like 60 creeps comming in at the same time? I dont even know what to focus during the push...
              The problem is as I stated we did quite good untill they acually gathered as 5 at 23 or so minutes and just steamrolled threw all our T2 (it was pretty even in towers till then) and went on to take the rax. The highground was just a mobsquad comming in (they had aegis) we killed lyctan twice, invoker and lesh then they just respawned and took another rax...

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              Low Expectations

                Should I just have repicked to kotl? :/

                Jʌy Δshʙoʁnɘ

                  Ban lycan?

                  2014 devaslaytion

                    Entire team build divine rapier then all mid and end it.

                    yiran

                      your lineup has mediocre creep clearing ability, and also what was morphling doing not getting the lanes pushed out???

                      wait you had a radiance bear wtf was it doing

                      melody it was ap

                      Vaikiss`742.

                        splitpush tp back defend

                        profit

                        .  .

                          Get phoenix. Just a fucking phoenix to stop most of early 5man pushes.

                          SalaciousCrome

                            Here are some common pushers and the favored counterpicks.

                            Lycan = Naga
                            Natures = Storm
                            Brood = Axe/ES

                            Almost all 5 man pushes = ES/Phoenix/Naga

                            Dire Wolf

                              You guys have very little counter push, well none really except radiance bear, and no stuns outside ogre. Hard to win vs those pushers. To kill lycan and np you need more disables too.

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                              Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                0 counter push.