General Discussionthe most useless heroes in 3k bracket

Tough call out of your options I would say.

Wisp - good luck getting anyone to work with.

Anti Mage - I just hate having as a teammate in general.

Personally I will throw in tusk because if he doesn't get mid once again hard to get people to work with you right and overall just not as much reward as playing other str heroes.

Only agree with Wisp

Chen - people can't use him properly...
Medusa - no comment
Elder Titan - same as Chen

AM is situational hero in 3k bracket
Wisp - useless unless u gud
CK - not bad when farmed
Kunkka - how is he useless?

if i may add stompers in 3k mmr imo are:
- FV
- Skywrath
- LC
- NP

I don't think a bracket exists Furion isn't effective in super easy hero.

Kunkka is useless! Stacking daedalus 5x. Without having any other items but boots #.

Missing every of his ults and so on!

Ck~ brain~dead people play with him most of the time.

low farm, no bkb vs heavy stunners, wasting ult, never

3k has people that can play Kunka they just skip speccing x marks which is annoying...

^i spec x :), and i hit the combo every time when x is lvl 2.
kunkka is not useless even a player with no skill and 3 daedaluses gets a crit of 1k dmg and your 2 supports just died.

Chaos Knight is the perfect scrub slayer, and anti mage is attainable with some practice (assuming you want to get out of the 3k bracket).

I would assume that wisp, chen, enchantress, naga siren and lone druid are the kind of heroes that make your team lose confidence in winning in the 3k bracket.

"the most useless hero in 3k bracket"

uhm you aka the player aka the fucking retard behind the monitor

yep thats it

How you play, not what you play!

Though I do hate it when we get an afk jungler(stupid life stealer pickers!)

AM agree
Kunkka never see him
IO rare but agree
CK seems ok

PA is a big one. beyond useless in 3k
invoker teammate is instant loss in 3k

http://dotamax.com/hero/rate/?skill=n&time=v681

AM is the worst people at 3k have it in their heads that that they know how to play him when they really have no clue. either they try to gank from level 6 and fall behind, or they afk farm THEIR teams jungle all game. then bitch at there team for not having any farm and for not being able to fight 4v5, and fail to out carry the other team at the 40 min mark even if it goes the long.

I have seen some bad kunkkas and dusas, but more than half the people who pick them seem to know what they are doing.

NP and faceless void always win the game in 3k just sometimes they win it for the other team.

Kunkka's amazing in low level games if you can hit X >Torrent > Boat (which is pretty easy).

Kunkka and CK are quite good in my games. At least they have some impact.

Wisp, chen, am, medusa, yeah, it's kinda' auto-lose.

3k is so god awful it really depends on who is playing the hero and who is playing against the hero. I have seen AM wreck teams and its just sad. Pretty easy hero to shut down.

I fuck kids up in 3k with Kunkka. What are you on about? CK is almost insta-lose though

Why all the hate on wisp, he is easy, im 3k bracket (or even lower) and most wisp plays are solo queue, but i have 50% winrate

Really depends on who's playing tho. When you get a guy who usually plays mid suddenly feels the urge to play CK and has played it 3 times before your team isn't going to have fun but if the person is experienced and competent than most of the heroes you listed are viable (i.e pick wisp tell teammate to go tony save has ass continously and win eventually) or pick someone like AM against a mid game lineup and ask team to waste time for you until you got manta online and then proceed to manfight the enemy or splitpush to victory.

i do just fine with wisp in 3k bracket

Earth Spirit

Invoker, silencer and skywrath. Why? most pub invoker at 30 mintues mid invoker only has phase, drums, force staff and that's it. Usually they dont' gank and haven't even touched enemy tower. Why silencer... most 3k noobs still building silence aka orchid on top of silencer? he needs refresher & sceptor not another silence item. And lastly skywrath the brother to cystal maiden in terms of feed. Sure he get's 2-3 good ults and get 2-3 good kills off slows but late game he's chowder.

Visage honestly in my opinion. A 3k Visage never can utilize the familiars well and always insists on building odd items that don't match the situation.

Leshrac, troll warlord and slark

the worst thing is when ppl pick chen and dont go jungle a single time in the entire game, happened to me some games ago