"go mid furi "
"morph beats ursa"
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morph is fucked cause his range is too short so ursa can just rect him anytime he wants
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extreme harras + waveform (nuke or escape). I know the range from morph sux ass but if u are a very good morph player u know how to position urself properly and harras ursa without getting hit. Also ursa can never get runes which he needs against a hero like morph. overral, mid is lost.
@ Wave: did that ursa want to go jungle? :D:D:D:D:D
i dunno how my kda is almost 3 on furion when iuse this hero to get rid of low prio while feeding 50+ times
i dont even buy proper items with furion lol
310 base vs 285 base, u can just keep forcing defensive waves i think? not to mention i dont think u can go morph level 1 maybe. if u go the typical wb start ursa probably gets bottle boots before your own then the lanes lost i guess.
Yes he said "go mid np" and then "morph beats ursa" and i didn't even focus on last hitting, i went to grab cake and waited for an opportunity to tp, then he says my treants fucked up the rosh when they already knew he was gonna rosh (HEY WHAT IS STREAM SNIPING)
morph's range is really small, and mid ursa just means you have to max earthshock and nuke creeps pre -10 seconds prior to a rune spawn and/or bottle crow. its the same how i play mid slark, u just max dark pact.
shits simple 
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Morph doesn't give a damn, bottlecrow 4tw. The issue is, that there are not many good morph players out there.
@ Wave:
Morph can also waveform creeps away, also he can use waveform for runes aswel since it has low cooldownl. He always has the advantage.
EDIT: wuts ur mmr btw
5k, this acc calibrated at 4 .8k but i dont mmr grind, i just try builds like 4 null talismans on furion (all my furion games has been this build)
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aye, so basicly some kind of test account for new builds n shit
to the whole morph vs ursa discussion, go and find a good morph player and 1v1 him, u'll see that u will get a hard time as ursa.
years ago when moon was a pubstar on HoN, the HoN forum was filled with threads lik this. And 2 months later he got picked by TDM. Now the trend is starting in Dota 2. The only thing this thread is doing is making him more popular.
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now, starting?
LeL kinda late to say that, doto com has always been like this.
btw, fix dat creepy avatar.
they call him wave so I guess it's his smurf account. Probably mad cuz he's only 3.5k MMR.
I was watching that game last night, the only reason he "failed" the roshan was as some "clever" NP sent his treants in there so enemy team could see them go in there... which made it pretty obvius that ursa is in there too... (he smoked into roshan pit first)
eg is full of hontrash? close to 99% of the things you've said is dumb, a classic one is "there are many smurfs ruining my high skilled 3k mmr games" just fucking kill yourself like your name says "just do it"
wow congratz without my treants he'd have died 20-25 seconds earlier, you don't rosh at lvl 3, especially when they are stream sniping you fucking mongoloid
requesting ban on these two
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if 'afk farm sniper mid, have...' is right, then indeed u did a mistake. You showed the enemy the treants which fucked him up. Also Stream sniping? He has 2min delay in his stream, it's the exact amount of time when you watch the game 'live'.
Overall, i watched his gameplay and have to admnit that he is actually a rather decent player. The only thing i found rather shitty was his micro. Decision making, farm etc. was top notch however.
no you fucking retards they were stream sniping, i dont need to check the replay to see they were mass pinging when i sent in treants, they reacted to rosh on the twitch 30 seconds delay
I don't know he is like a butthurt dweller but his Kunkka is legit really.
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his stream has a 2min delay. You should check facts before posting, otherwise you might look like an asshat.
who to trust.
Top 20 mmr leaderboard ex pro player, or some smurf player with a high calibration.
tough one.
Ursa "rapes" morph? yea.. sure.
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wave is not utterly shit, but when he's angry he tends to lose sight of whats really happening.
@ Wave:
I downloaded the replay and holy shit. Are you serious? You made treants mid, right on front of morphlings face, then send them into rosh pit, not only did the enemy ward spot that but even morpling had to be blind, deaf and stupid to not realize what is going on.
That ursa got fucked was entirely your fault. you couldn't possibly make it more obvious even if you tried to.
morph can't see/hear treants summon in the fog, and lolz being flamed by sub 3k autist playing bot matches due to "ladder anxiety" and what fucking top 20 mmr? us east? if i play on us east i'd be on 13th place
you both are free to challenge me 1v1 mid and pick morph but i'm not doing this shit for free since sub 5k autists are just waste of time and oxygen, i don't even know why im writing to low quality bait actuall
i'd challenge you to show that ursa is better but i cant play morph so it rly wouldnt mean anything if i lost :p
haha benao they are just baiting i guess.
yeah zenoth but those treants didn't fuck up the rosh.
there are two scenarios and i chose the latter one mainly because ursa was lvl 3 and he said some shit about his stout shield missing so he'd either die to rosh before rubick and enigma checked the stream to see if he was roshing
1. i don't send in the treants, he still gets stream sniped, the rosh is close to 60-70% hp and ursa dies to the radiant and gold gets split up
2. i send in the treants, he still gets stream sniped, the rosh is either dead or close to falling down and ursa isn't down to sub 50% hp.
i really hope i get to play against this mongoloid tonight, i'll just pick ta or slark and fountain farm him
About ursa vs morph
I dont know man but my point of view is: sano ( 5k player ) benao ( 5k player ) and wave ( 6k player ) against the opinion of concede ( 3k player ) and blunt ( 4,5k player )
So yeah .... i will go with wave in this one
310 base vs 285 base, everytime ursa uses his slow morph HAS to wave out, and both can bottlecrow so ...........
not just that dorkly, it also comes down that ursa will be the one getting runes before morph (unless ursa misplays really big) and we all know what happens when ursa gets blink while morph is struggling to get linkens (assuming the morph is an average pub player) in this current deathball meta.
240 damage 6s cd 55% slow for 4 seconds for 75 mana
vs
325 damage 11s cd repositioning for 165 mana
people seriously underestimate max earthshock in mid, its one of the most mana efficient spells in the ENTIRE GAME
@Dorkly:
how the fuck do u know the mmr of this account?
And why are u ignoring nova?
Wave had a 6K account which got recalibrated by Volvo because of abuse. He is NOT a 6k player. Why the fuck do you think does wave play on the OP account?
Moon which is Top 15 US player (6,3k rating) said Morph > Ursa.
So basicly:
sano ( 5k player ) - Can't find his post, i'm blind.
benao ( 5k player ) - more like 4,5k thats the range he's most at
and wave ( 6k player ) - Not
against the opinion of
concede ( 3k player )
blunt ( 4,5k player )
Moon ( 6,3k player)
Nova (god knows what MMR he has)
@ Zenoth:
No the thing is, you underestimate positioning a lot. People who know how to use positioning as an advantage will rek games. That's also the reason why you see so many pro and 6k players picking up blink, forcestaff or euls and when you go to lower end games you see more of damage items.
blunt you are 3.5k or something and it didn't get recalibrated because of abuse, it got recalibrated due to <100 matches played and that account didn't calibrate at 6k.
old pic (maybe 3 weeks old?) http://puu.sh/aFjYU.jpg
i honestly don't care if you are 6k or 7k in us east, moonmeander plays like a typical 4.8k mmr player and stop fucking arguing with 6k players holy shit, this is why everyone hate sub 5k players
if you think morph beats ursa mid, then fucking bet your entire inventory and create a lobby and i'll play ursa vs you mid
Exactly what Zenoth said, max Earthshock is REALLY strong, basically ursa rapes any melee hero mid and a lot of ranged heroes as well, especially those with low range such as Morph
240 damage 6s cd 55% slow for 4 seconds for 75 mana
vs
325 damage 11s cd repositioning for 165 mana
Damm ..... the cd is almost the double lol
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leave dota you fucking autistic hontrash
i'll just tell you what he said in teamchat
"go mid furi"
"i'll lose mid vs morph"
"i can rosh solo" (which i helped him but he still failed)
you're worse than the peruvian scourge haunting us east servers fucking mongoloid